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Myths - Everyone Should Convert to Roth IRA

President signed into law the Tax Increase Prevention and Reconciliation Act of 2005 on On May 17,  2006.  One of the provisions will allow all individuals to convert traditional IRAs into Roth IRAs starting in 2010.  Currently, only individuals with an income below $100,000 can do this. 

In reading acticles, some have said that this conversion is a no brainer including Suzie Orman.  The main reasons that people give appear to be:

  • Roth IRAs are taxed intially (when income is contributed or IRA is converted) and not in retirement so investment returns for Roth IRAs are not taxed
  • Tax rates may increase in the future so it is better to get taxed now
  • Roth IRAs can be used as an emergency fund

Before you go off to convert your IRAs, let's take a closer look at each of these reasons:

  • Roth IRAs are taxed intially (when income is contributed or IRA is converted) and not in retirement so investment returns are not taxed

    Not being taxed on your investment returns sound very promising.  Yet, as I have written in Power of 401(k)s and IRAs, if tax rates are consistent, then from an investment return perspective, 401(k)s and IRAs are simiar.  Let me show why this is true.  Assume that a person age 35 invests $5,000 in each tax deferred vehicle which all earn 8.5% annually and he takes his money out at age 65.  Assume the person is also taxed a flat 30% now and in the future.

    In a 401(k) and IRA
    Investment is put into the vehicle tax-free at age 35: $5,000

    Investment grows with interest tax-free to age 65: $5,000 x (1.085)^30 years = $57,791

    Money is taxed when withdrawn at age 65 : $57,791 x (1 - .30 tax rate) = $40,454

    In a Roth IRA

    Money is taxed at age 35 when earned as income: $5,000 x (1 - .30 tax rate) = $3,500

    Investment grows with interest tax-free: $3,500 x (1.085)^30 years = $40,454

    Money is not taxable when withdrawn at age 65: $40,454

    As you can see each vehicle while end up with the same amount at age 65 ($40,454) under a constant tax rate.  One may wonder how this can be when the tax for the Roth IRA was only $1,500 ($5,000 x .30 tax rate) while the 401(k) and IRA the tax is $17,337 ($57,791 x .30 tax rate).  This is because the government will take 30% of the money either at the beginning or at the end.  Now, imagine your money as a pie circle.  If the money (pie circle) expands outward at similar rates, the government will take its 30% slice whether it is on the smaller pie or larger pie.  In the end, 30% of the pie is still gone due to taxes.  Thus, in an IRA, Roth IRA or 401(k) plan, your share is the remaining 70%.

  • Tax rates may increase in the future so it is better to get taxed now

    First, this is not a given.  And, if they do increase, the effect on 401(k)s, IRAs and Roth IRAs are not certain.  For example, tax increase can be done by increasing sales tax, capital gain taxes, or reduce tax deductions and exemptions which will have no effect on these tax deferred savings vehicles.  And, if tax rates do increase in the future, the tax savings from being taxed at lower rates may not offset the cost of converting your IRAs all at once.  Let me show you why.

    Assume you are earning $60,000 and have $200,000 IRA.  When you convert, the IRA is reported as taxable income.  The regular income tax on a simplified basis would be:

     
    No Conversion
    Conversion
    Income
    $60,000 
    $260,000 
    Exemption
     $6,600 
      $6,600 
    Taxable Income
    $53,400 
    $253,400 
    Tax on single (married)
      10% up to $15,100
    $1,510 
    $1,510 
      15% up to $61,300
    5,745 
    6,930 
      25% up to $123,700
    15,600 
      28% up to $188,450
    18,130 
      33% up to $336,550
    21,434 
      35% over $336,550
    Total Tax
    $7,225 
    $63,604 

    As you can see, there are significantly more taxes involved with an IRA conversion.  However, this is not the real issue because the IRA would have needed to be taxed in retirement.  The key is that for $200,000 for the IRA conversion, the person is paying $56,349 in taxes (or 28% tax rate).  In addition, there is state and local income taxes due as well.  The question is will you be paying at a lower or higher tax rate in retirement.  If lower, then you should not convert to a Roth IRA.  If higher, then you should convert now.  In some cases, it may be lower because of the graduated tax scale (however, each situation is different).

    Example of tax in retirement:

    Assume: $60,000 in Income with $24,000 for Social Security, $14,000 in non-retirement income (work or interest in other investments & $22,000 in Roth IRA or IRA income)

     
    No Conversion
    Conversion
    Income
    $60,000 
    $60,000 
    Income Subject to Taxation*
    $14,000 
    $56,400 
    Exemption
     $6,600 
      $6,600 
    Taxable Income
    $7,400 
    $49,800 
    Tax on Joint Income
      10% up to $15,100
    $740 
    $1,510 
      15% up to $61,300
    5,205 
      25% up to $123,700
      28% up to $188,450
      33% up to $336,550
      35% over $336,550
    Total Tax
    $740 
    $6,715 

    In this situation, you are paying $5,975 more in income taxes for $22,000 in IRA distribution (27% tax rate).  

 

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